CI instead of GOC.

[Melon]

HOLD IT BEFORE YOU GRAB THE PITCHFORKS! I dont mean just reskin GOC with CI. I mean a lore accurate CI that focuses on Deep infiltration and causing chaos amongst the foundation. Imagine a CI that is purely player led where people who do not trust the foundation end up aligning themselves with CI without knowing this.

Situation example:
-Site director White makes a controversial containment idea where 035 is allowed to use a D-Class hose to roam under guard. This is in an attempt to make 035 more amicable to foundation and his containment, but this gets out of hand as 035 keeps killing his guards seemingly no matter how many guards he is assigned and breaches to cause chaos. This leads to alot of Security holding complaints and protests against SD White sewing distrust amongst the foundation for site command, but the issue is that 035 wasn't breaching on his own. MTF 2LT 'John Johnson' was an Insurgent infill who was actually assisting 035 in breaching by hiding weapons along his walk route and assigning fellow insurgents and low ranking weaker MTF to guard 035 making it easier for him to breach. None of this is done via staff order all of it would be a string of player decisions. This would make it so incompetence and corruption in the foundation is something to worry about. If something goes wrong can site command give slaps on the wrist knowing that possibly CI is one step closer to destroying the site?
 The idea is that instead of another military faction there is an actual threat the the Foundation long term. This isnt a raiding party the Foundation has to worry about every other hour its a looming threat that can cause long term damage without ever revealing itself.

Ranks:
The CI wouldnt act in a rigid structure more like a loose spy network, There would be people in the foundation who gather info and give that info to their superiors who would be Alpha personal. For example GENSEC CPL timmy mcdimmy overhears from an Alpha-9 that site command wants to host a meeting with SH to hash out a treaty. Timmy then tells his LT about it and asks if he can be put on guard duty because he's tired of D-block duty. Timmy while at the guard duty sees a marksmen kill the serpentine as he goes to meet Foundation at a secret location. What timmy doesn't know is that the marksmen was a CI. A CI who got information from the beta class lieutenant he reported the information to. Timmy does not know it but he is an Alpha class personal. Designated that for the fact he reports information to his secretly CI lieutenant without even knowing he is helping CI.
The idea is that CI is a spy network that lurks in the shadows constantly, one that hides in plain site and gathers info.

[Odysseus]

I'm going to be genuine as a GOC Player, Id hate to see a change like this as for more reasons than one I enjoy the GOC's Prescence.

1-Sure CI is cool and can bring interesting RP like Infiltration,Secrecy,Subterfuge, and all that but a faction like true Lore CI would be incredibly hard to pull off with our current numbers on the server and the GMOD Community as a whole which really enjoys combat and short gains over LONG Deep infiltration missions where the foundation has to watch their backs and not trust anyone around them and we already have SH for a Strict hate the Foundation mentality faction that also have Magic and Cloaks fulfilling the Infiltration/Assymetric Warfare Ideal for the server making CI if it gets added (If I'm reading this correctly) just feel like a watered down Serpents hand that copies a lot of its Gimic's except for the magic but replacing it with like 3 guys who cause constant defection reasons.

2-The GOC being here gives people that want to RP Blowing up and finding ways to Destroy Anomalies  a Faction to feel at home in, I can say from talking to a few people that quite a Few including myself like that mentality as a core building block of the faction without consuming it, Say for Example CI was to Replace the GOC, Their whole Stick is just using the anomalous as Weapons to create a Utopia and to tear down the oppressors of the Foundation, Which leads into my third Concern.

3-CI AND SH Strictly hate the Foundation and are considered Shoot on site when seen in lore, It will just slow the "Political" Landscape of the Region as both SH and CI simply wish to release the anomalies and to maim the Foundation leading to a heavily hostile enviornment for MTF when they come to the surface which doesn't even note the Infiltration Spam, I for one do not want a constant surface war between three factions to where you cant enjoy the map and where no talking happens, With GOC being here it becomes a lot more Grey as they can be fine with and fight the foundation at the same time depending on the situation

4- I feel like this would be much better discussed in the future when the server population grows.

[Melon]

1. The Sh have nothing like the infiltration I am referring to, they dont have a way to disguise or do a deep long term infiltration into foundation.
2. While that would be an RP opportunity lost. Its a dead end RP situation. The server wont let you actually destroy and anomaly so the RP always has to fail or else it would permanently lose an SCP.
3. SH-GOC have the same issue, if not worse since its the 2 smaller factions constantly at each others necks compared to 2 smaller factions fighting together against the larger one, having to actually work together and compromise to achieve victory against a more powerful foe.
4.Why is it better to wait for when more people have spent time and invested themselves into a branch to replace it with a different one?

[Luke River]

i think the ci ranks are alpha beta gamma delta delta commander birgade commander major commander LT Commander and Commander

 

[dukewaffles]

-1 AS much as I love CI. I like GoC more than CI. I really like the GoC.

[Fracture]

-1, the most cookie cutter faction. It is so so over-used.

[ImFrostyWhy]

PENDING REVIEW

Your suggestion has been placed into pending, awaiting the review of Community & Server Leadership.

[Kito]

-Support
CI attracts some of the most toxic players Ive ever met, provides no RP potential, and is just another bad-guys faction. 
If you make it a character-exclusive thing instead of a faction players flag onto, then youll have everyone RDMing and saying theyre CI. 

[Energy]

I think at the moment its not worth dealing with them